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Review: Tenchu Z

There aren’t many ninja games available nowadays, but luckily there’s the Tenchu series. Tenchu Z is the latest iteration of the franchise that’s been in a downward spiral for years. Not much new stuff has been added in the last couple of Tenchu games to keep it fresh, and the old-fashioned PS1 gameplay was dragging it down. Will a fresh next-generation title rejuvenate the series, or is it a hopeless attempt to cash in on lost glory?

Despite the cliché of ninjas wearing black robes and skirts, the first objective when booting up the game is creating your character. The Ninja creator allows combinations very uncommon to the Ninja style. One might wonder why there are only a few dozen combinations available whilst games from the previous generation would allow hundreds of millions of combinations; even eyebrows could be modeled. Distributing a set amount of skill points is the last step in creating the protagonist. The looks for a second Ninja have to be created afterwards, but other than seeing him pop up in cut scenes occasionally, he’s not of much use.

Before starting the fifty mission long journey, a mandatory tutorial has to be completed. Most of the game’s controls are explained in there, but it’s going way too fast to fully comprehend everything. Instead of teaching you all the basics at a slow pace, boring text is displayed very fast whilst only providing one exercise to try out the newly learned skill. The game manual has all the controls listed, but for a better understanding of how all the moves work, trial and error is the way to go. Once completed, you find yourself in the Ninja Village where missions can be chosen, or extra skills and equipment can be bought. This place itself is pretty useless and it would’ve been better if it was left out because it causes annoying extra loading screen between each mission. But alas, when choosing a mission, Master Ninja Rikimaru’s hut is the place to be!

Contained within the hut are all the available missions at the time, some of which are optional. This in turn means that only bits and pieces of the story fall into place, because you don’t need to play every level so the story doesn’t open itself up as it should to explain everything. The story is also annoying because despite the game being translated for the Western market, the publisher didn’t really feel like going through the process of translating the Japanese spoken dialog. The pathetic excuse for a storyline is about a conflict between rival clans and drug trafficking in ancient Japan. There isn’t really anything more to it than that, but it’s your goal to solve this mess. The aforementioned Rikimaru is the protagonist of earlier Tenchu games and is now a wise master handing out assignments. Most of the time there’s more than one mission to choose from, but in order to fully understand the game’s storyline all of them have to be dealt with. Unfortunately the objectives are incredibly shallow, they mainly consist of getting to a certain point on the map and then performing an action; kill a mobster, pick up a package or stealthily follow someone. Each mission contains exactly one objective and a failure condition which is death most of the time.

After seeing another pointless loading screen with some well meant but ill received hints and tips, stealth and killing awaits. Unfortunately the game doesn’t explicitly require any stealth at all; you’ll find yourself massacring an entire village full of bad guys occasionally. Killing enemies can be done in two ways, with and without stealth. The first option is the preferred one since it only takes one blow to disable the bad guys, while the other option of no stealth can be lethal for the Ninja as he may well take a lot of damage, which may also attract some unwanted friends. Despite stealth being the smart move, there are plenty of moves and combos available to kill enemies should players go head-on into battle.

The artificial intelligence is so incredibly bad that it’ll probably be the worst you’ll ever see this generation of consoles. There are so many things that are flawed about the system that warrant it a nightmare. For example, enemies completely ignore shadows clearly indicating that you’re hiding somewhere. Even huge shadows being cast on the ground while standing on a roof don’t catch the guard’s attention. They do manage to call for help when they’ve spotted you slaughtering one of their buddies, but simply running away from the scene makes them forget everything and they go back to normal guard mode. The above examples are just a couple of the many imperfections, but when choosing a higher difficulty there’s even more trouble. Apparently enemy guards have oversensitive sight and hearing, meaning that they can somehow sense someone through a rock wall. Instead of having this slightly realistic ninja experience, the AI’s flaws have to be taken into account all the time to avoid frustrating restarts.

The game starts off with pretty decent environments varying quite a bit from each other, but after a dozen missions, this quickly turns around when all locations (of which mostly villages) start looking the same. Combined with the repetitive objectives, the missions vary too little to be challenging. Various traps and alarms are scattered throughout the enemy encampment but they’re very easy to detect and it won’t take much effort to escape and evade them since the enemy doesn’t respond very quickly. The major gripe with the gameplay is that finishing most missions can be done in as little as a minute. Going straight for the objective and right through the encampment is no problem at all, as long as you make sure that you take a couple of seconds to let the enemy cool down and forget about you. Fifty missions doesn’t sound so much now, does it?

There are some good things about the game, but it takes too much work to actually enjoy them. In order to have some fun with the combat system, the hard way of confronting enemies head on has to be taken, which on the other hand is unnecessary in order to complete the mission. The Ki Meter located in your HUD is an addition that can help you read your surroundings. This meter displays the awareness of your enemy and has a bunch of symbols to do so. New in Tenchu Z is smell. The Ki Meter start showing a Japanese symbol indicating that an enemy has picked up your scent. This should give enough warning so that measures to prevent detection can be taken.

The almost useless Ninja Villages fulfills another function besides housing Rikimaru and offering extra loading times, there’s also a shop. Money earned by successfully completing missions and killing lots of enemies can be spent on gadgets and new fighting skills. Not only does this make life a little easier, also a bit more fun. The new moves can be added in the combo menu for some creative killing. Items can also be obtained during a mission, but aren’t really required for bringing the mission to an end. It can be entertaining to experiment with as there are quite a lot of things to choose from, ranging from poison cookies to smoke bombs.

Graphically the game is a disgrace to the Xbox 360 platform; there are just too many things that make it look ugly and boring. Basic and repetitive textures, bad lighting, and shadows that go through walls are just a few of the many issues. It almost looks like developer FromSoftware ported this game straight from the Playstation 2 without making any effort to make it look worthy of a next generation title. The sound isn’t particularly interesting either. The music is of the typical Asian flute-and-string type which gets repetitive after a while and since the dialogues are in Japanese, not much satisfaction can be gained from that either.

You can double, triple or quadruple the fun of a singleplayer game by going online. The only game mode available is Co-op, but it’s available in a ranked and unranked version. The voice chat feature makes this multiplayer feature worthwile, because the missions themselves are already laughable in the singleplayer part, but playing them together is even worse. Only the pleasure of laughing at your objective with someone else makes it bearable.

It’s too much hard work to get any enjoyment out of this game, there are just too few good parts to make up for the many flaws. Instead of offering a fun ninja experience by itself, you’ll have to look up ways to enjoy it yourself. Not even the four way multiplayer can save this hopeless attempt at a fun game. Both graphics and gameplay belong on previous generation consoles and the question of whether Tenchu Z is a hopeless cash-in can be answered with a big yes.

Final Score: 3 out of 10 – Extremely Poor (How do we rate games?)

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83 comments on 'Review: Tenchu Z'

Comment by Andy on 2007-06-26 09:25:11

I disagree, its actually a good game, definitely worth a rent or when its in the bargain bin

http://360post.com/watch/65/tenchu-z-gameplay-footage-2
^ Vid of the game

Comment by TRIGGER M4N on 2007-06-26 09:29:23

Ninja Gaiden FTW!

Comment by nofear360 on 2007-06-26 09:38:42

I was starting to wonder why you have been playing this shitty game for the past few days :P.

Comment by Agent Balti on 2007-06-26 09:43:51

Another extremely dodgy japanese game shocker…well, no shock at all really. Has their actually been ONE good release for the 360 from Japan yet (one that transfers well to the Western market?)

Comment by Niels Keurentjes on 2007-06-26 09:49:04

I’m kinda liking Project Sylpheed myself thus far. Also DoA4 was good.

As for Tenchu Z, I’ve had the displeasure of playing it myself some hours before sending the review unit on to Aert, and part of me says his 3/10 is generous.

Comment by kobejonez on 2007-06-26 09:50:02

Dead Rising??

Comment by Niels Keurentjes on 2007-06-26 10:15:29

Oops how did I forget that :X

Dead Rising is the single best Japanese game on the 360 so far yeah ;)

Comment by nofear360 on 2007-06-26 09:50:22

Dead Rising, Lost Planet etc.

Comment by kobejonez on 2007-06-26 09:52:30

Pro evo?

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-07-18 10:01:24

To slow.

Comment by McGrude on 2007-06-26 16:31:43

Chromehounds (after spending 2 hours to learn the shitty user interface)

Comment by SilentAssassn87 on 2007-06-26 09:56:26

Oh man…this does not sound good at all. I loved Tenchu 2 and 3. Tenchu 4 sucked for some reason, it just did not deliver that kick ass effect. I have not played the full game yet, but the demo was fun. *Sigh* I hope I wont regret the fact that this game should be coming in the mail today (Rental).

Comment by Tucky on 2007-06-26 10:15:02

i really enjoy the demo, might give it a rent when its out.

Comment by Zampano on 2007-06-26 11:24:06

Anyone hear the producer guy on Major Nelson trying to say that the graphics were a ’stylistic choice, like Crackdown’? Sure thing buddy.

Comment by Thryon on 2007-06-26 11:36:33

I tried the demo, twice and did not like it each time. Unless I find it for less than $10, I will not pick this game up.

Comment by Draistlin on 2007-06-26 12:34:26

lost planet, Dead or alive

Both verry good games.

Comment by steven ratty on 2007-06-26 13:36:47

i like this game if you take your time its good
new maps for RB6 are good

Comment by Darren/Kainz Uk on 2007-06-26 14:13:15

Another crap japanese game was my response 10mins after playing this title and uninstalling it. What utter tripe, and tbh that final screenshot above says it all - I hate these dumb cartoon things that appear in games from the west.

I recently bought Earth Defence Force a month or so ago. Boy what a screwup that game is. It’s great fun for about the first 10 levels, and then just goes on and on and on. Bouncing ants ahoy!

So far the only decent game to come out from there was Dead Rising and Lost Planet.

Comment by mass9 on 2007-06-26 15:46:23

i think you meant games from the EAST, but your points are still valid.

Comment by Darren/Kainz Uk on 2007-06-26 18:02:55

Yeah, I meant East :P

Comment by McGrude on 2007-06-26 16:34:12

Japan is both east and west, of me at least. I’d hazard a guess that it is also east and west of Darren/Kainz Uk.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-07-18 10:08:50

When you take into account time differences though it is always in the east.

Comment by Curtis Jackson on 2007-06-26 15:38:02

Thank God you guys gave this a shitty score. I can’t find any enjoyment with this game. Awkward controls, stupid finishing moves and really not that many of them, and, yea, just a terrible game. I can’t believe people are actually buying this game.

Comment by _Chris_ on 2007-06-27 08:32:35

I’m still getting it, dont care what anyone says, its tenchu,i enjoyed the demo, and even if its just something i complete and then trade in, which i doubt seeing as i have neverdisliked a tenchu game bar the PSP one and the silly spin offs after tenchu 3. but still, definatly getting this game, no reviews will disheaten this tenchu fan:*)

Comment by BruNasty's DeadlyBongRiP on 2007-06-27 08:50:48

Fanboys unite!
I’ve played the entire franchise and knew it was going to be plagued with horrible graphics. But there is something to be had with sneaking around feudal Japan stabbin bitches in the heart. However, there is much MORE to be had that this game didn’t deliver on. I would happily trade the “Smell-o-meter” for the old beheadings of yesteryear. The franchise just needs to be bought by a talented developer and shown some proper love.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-06-27 18:30:39

I have to say, that was a pretty disgraceful review. And I don’t mean the game. The whole tone of the article was just unfitting for an Xboxic writer. Although, I guess I should expect that every now and then from amateur reviewers on a gaming website.

And honestly, would you have preferred Japanese dialogue with English subtitles, or terrible English dubbing? Don’t you think it might have ruined the mood of the game a little bit to have Japanese ninjas in feudal Japan speaking in English? You probably would have complained about that, too.

I can agree with BruNasty’s comments, though. Ideas = good, execution = bad. I’ve never played any of the other games, but I’d be happy to pick the series up here and see where it goes in the future.

Comment by Curtis Jackson on 2007-06-27 19:15:34

Just what part of the gameplay did you enjoy?

Comment by Veritas on 2007-06-27 19:28:40

Sneaking around on roofs and jumping down on enemies below me, and the general cool ways of killing things in secret. Maybe it’s just that I actually have an imagination, and can enjoy these things?

Comment by Curtis Jackson on 2007-06-28 07:07:06

Hahahahaha, are you seriously trying to make fun of me by saying I don’t have an imagination? Hahaha, o my god, are you six years old or something, haha, that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen online!

And as for the things you liked, there’s tons of other games that do stealth kills sooo much better (every Splinter Cell, The Darkness, The Chronicles of Riddick), and if jumping down on enemies below you is your thing, why not Crackdown. The idea is pretty solid behind Tenchu Z, they just made it play out like utter shit. Even with you biiiig boy imagination you can clearly see that, right?

Comment by Veritas on 2007-06-28 15:58:06

Actually, no, I wasn’t trying to make fun of you, but since you got so defensive, you’ve probably got some inadequacies to deal with. So I’ll leave you to those.

And none of those games is a -ninja- game.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-07-18 10:16:13

Yeah but they also ain’t a shit game, like this shit ninja game.

3/10 is generous, this game is arse.

Comment by mu on 2007-07-30 03:34:35

are you judging the game by the demo? have you even played the final version of this game glovner?

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-07-30 09:08:22

Yes I am judging this game by the Demo.

Because it should be a demonstration of what I should expect from the game, the demonstration gave my the impression I was playing with a sweaty arse, so the game is arse.

Comment by mu on 2007-07-30 22:15:04

i am telling you, the demo is not indicative of the quality of the final product. it is too bad they released that piece of shit demo, but it does not affect the quality of the final game, which is much higher. granted, i like stealth, and i liked tenchu 1 and 2, but i hated the demo as much as anyone, and i think the game is leaps and bounds over it. i am not saying give it a chance if tenchu is not your thing, but if you were a fan of the series, do not let this review or that cesspool of a demo drive you away. tenchu z sticks to its roots in a good way, and the controls are infinitely better than they have ever been. i have a rental agreement with blockbuster, and have to have two games out at all times, and just got this cause they had it. i am really glad i did. and i haven’t even touched the mp yet.

anyway, nice eye on the month old thread. half way down too, that was a tough catch.

Comment by Aert on 2007-06-28 06:22:18

No, I wouldn’t have bitched about English dialogue. They did that in Genji: Days of the Blade which was a horrible game, but the dialog wasn’t that bad. I guess I should expect some criticism every now and then from amateur commenters on a gaming website.

Comment by BruNasty's DeadlyBongRiP on 2007-06-28 06:58:57

Ummmm yea, Veritas: Don’t bash the reviewer ‘cuz you didn’t agree with the review. Aert has been reviewing on this site for a long time, he’s one of the editors.
I’ll call him a douche, but not because I disagree with his review. ;)

Comment by Veritas on 2007-06-28 15:56:58

Then he should write like someone that’s as experienced as that, not like a 15 year old that sounds like he hates everything Japanese.

Comment by Aert on 2007-06-28 16:38:27

Ehrm, because I didn’t like the Japanese dialog in the game I hate everything Japanese… right…

Comment by Veritas on 2007-06-28 17:37:03

I said “sounds like,” not is.

Comment by Curtis Jackson on 2007-07-01 16:41:11

It’s actually more like you love anything Japanese, so you’ll buy a shit game that has Japanese elements just to prove that you’re hardcore.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-07-01 19:37:46

Yes, that’s why I dislike my Playstation 2 and only own a single Final Fantasy game.

If you’re going to try and insult me, at least think of something better than that, mm’kay?

At least, stop trying to defend a shit review (and an even worse reviewer) because you’re so infatuated with the cocks of Xboxic, and realize that the writer of the article just did a poor job.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-07-01 19:39:11

Edit: Sorry for the language, I’m done here.

Comment by _Chris_ on 2007-07-01 17:15:28

Yeah cause we’re all just trying to be hardcore, isnt that everyones ultimate goal in life?

Comment by _Chris_ on 2007-07-02 21:38:01

Veritas, if you dont like xboxic or the admins, why you still here?

Comment by Veritas on 2007-07-02 21:44:35

I like some people on Xboxic, and I like some of the admins. It’s when they write like this that I get pissed off. It’s my personal opinion that the site should just stick to what it does well, which is news.

Comment by nayse-btc on 2007-07-07 13:49:31

its not a great review, but most people have made their minds up already on this i think. is it just the same game as what the japanese accounts had as a demo a while back? if it is its not really very fun, and nothing compared to the old ones (which could have done with a proper sequel, dunno why someone said horrible graphics- when the first 1 came out it was phat)dont diss the japanese game makers tho- capcom etc are the shit- they make games that really last and have something to them.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2007-07-17 23:40:48

For what it’s worth, I loved this game. Easily the best Tenchu in the franchise so far. The last one was rubbish especially the forced camera angles, but the camera and general controls are far more intuitive this time round. I’m sorry guys, but I never get tired of doing executions where the blood sprays out like a fireman’s hose. Just like Shogun Assassin or Lady Snowblood. Superb fun. There’s a good 40-60 hours of gameplay in this to get all the achievements. You need to play each of the missions for about 10-20 mins to get the Ninja 5 ranks. It’s about taking your time and making the kills without being spotted. All part of the fun and strategy of Tenchu. Something the reviewer missed in my opinion. Clearly not his preferred genre. I’d have gave it more like 6.5 out of 10. It may have its flaws, but like Earth Defense Force 2017, it’s a guilty pleasure of sheer great gameplay.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-07-18 10:21:43

Right I feel the need to comment now.

There is fuck all wrong with the review, it is exactly what a review is supposed to be, the writers personal thoughts on the product he is reviewing, listing all good points and bad along with his overall opinion.

It is then your job to read the review along with other reviews by different people for the same game (provided you want to actually get a balanced opinion) and use these as a tool to help you make a desicion of whether you want to buy the product.

If you can’t work that out then you are clearly a bit of a stupid cunt.

And for the record, Veritas has acted more like a fucking 5 yr old than anyone he is trying to get wide with, and that makes him look like the biggest arsehole in the thread. Allegedly.

I will be expecting no comeback on my comments though Veritas since I never actually called you anything rather just reported on alleged comments.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-07-21 00:14:30

Nice disclaimer, but passive aggressive went out the window with “and for the record”.

I appreciate the effort, though.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2007-07-23 20:16:39

It’s also worth nothing that a review isn’t merely “the writer’s personal thoughts”. It should be balanced in the first place without having to read multiple reviews. Of course, the writer will have a particular bias, but a good writer will try to avoid this at all costs. Just for the record. LOL.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2007-07-30 09:13:49

I never suggested it is merely the writers personal thoughts. He lists the good points and bad as he sees them. Obviously these points will be balanced in line with the writers viewpoint but to say that his personal opinion would not colour the review and you should never need to read more than one review gives me the impression you may have been smoking crack before writing that one.

Comment by mu on 2007-07-30 03:31:44

wow, after playing the demo, i would have let this review slide, but now that i have given the game a rental, i can say that the reviewer was certainly not a tenchu fan, and probably not a stealth fan. any fan of tenchu that has played the game can say without question that this reviewer missed out on so much that the game did right, it is an absolute injustice. and i would have been clamoring along with y’all about how shitty the game is, but is incredibly obvious that you ALL are judging this game by the demo, and you should just shut the fuck up it you haven’t played the game. seriously. the demo was a disgrace, but no one wants to hear about it. the game is definitely worth a rental if you are a fan of the series, you will very likely be pleasantly surprised, i know i was….

there is only one thing i believe for sure, this game is far better than a three, and i think it definitely should have been reviewed by a fan of the genre/series… take it how you wanna aert… if you even care about this anymore.

sorry for digging this up, but i just recently rented the game, and it is indeed, not bad.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-03 15:01:41

I haven’t even played the demo fyi :D I just couldn’t look past all the things this game does wrong, and there are just way too many. AI sucks, graphics suck, missions suck and it’s way too easy. It really gets repetitive after you killed the 10th merchant in a village which looks 90% like the previous village.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 00:40:49

i wasn’t implying that you, the author, was writing based on only the demo. can i ask, how many levels did you ninja 5? better yet, what is your live tag, and i’ll check myself.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 01:43:43

your name links to rival24 on the forums, so i will assume that is you, though it seems odd a reporter would have multiple logins for his site. trying to hide something?

anyway, if that is you, you didn’t get shit on tenchu. no wonder you didn’t have a good time. there is a way to have a shitload of fun with this game, and you weren’t looking for it. it is just too bad you may have scared off some potential enjoyers of this game with your mediocre review and/or skills (no offense).

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 01:47:51

damn, i just noticed… if that is you, you didn’t even bother to finish the damn game, as of august 3rd. is that correct? can i get some confirmation on that aert? wrote a review on a game you didn’t finish? is that possible? comment?

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 10:06:43

Trying to hide something? Are you retarded? If I wanted to hide something, don’t you think I would’ve linked to something else than my profile on the forum? That’s right, a nickname! Most people have one on the internet, or is your real name mu? Trying to hide something?

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 14:08:03

well, i thought aert was your nickname. if it your real name, i gotta say, it is pretty damn cool. and don’t take all this so personally! this is just for edification and excitement! stay chill.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 01:57:53

ok, no shit, i think since the reviewer has played through LESS than 20 out of 50 missions, hasn’t come close to completing the game, and has rated this game far below even the worst and most malevolent internet trolls, maybe it should be removed? or maybe aert should finish playing the game, and then adjust his score if necessary. as it stands, y’all have a reviewer dissing the piss out of a halfway decent game (one of the only available in the genre), and he hasn’t even played through it. no offense, and aert, i appreciate you taking the time to write the review, but damn y’all, play the game!

Comment by Veritas on 2007-08-04 04:23:17

Lmao. I had nothing to do with this.

Just sayin’.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-08-04 04:24:46

Edit: I will say, though, it’s nice to see I’m not alone in my appreciation of this game (and the dismay at its review).

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 15:03:28

true indeed.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 10:03:49

It’s ok, you can continue whining about these futilities and ignore all the bad things about this game that I’ve mentioned.

And what the hell man, so what if I don’t have all the achievements unlocked on MY gamertag? I shouldn’t have to justify this to anyone but whatever. I took the game to a friends house and under the influence of some alcohol we completed it. Did we enjoy it? No, for all the reason I mentioned.

You should really take a look at Metacritic and stop praising this game like a fanboy. It’s shit, most people won’t like it, accept that.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 14:39:53

who the hell is deleting my comments??? am i that inflammatory? i am just trying to impress upon somebody who might enjoy this game, that it is not as bad as you are suggesting! yes i am discrediting you by pointing out you did not finish it, but… YOU DIDN’T FINISH IT!

c’mon, take some responsibility for your carelessness. this is the internet for christ’s sake, of course someone is going to call you on it!

metacritic user rating: 6.7
metacritic media rating: 56/100

this is not evidence in your favor! i am not saying the game is great, i am saying it is not a three.

and it is quite obvious you did not take this game to a friends house, start over, and complete it. quite obvious.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 15:04:07

Keep this up, call me a liar again and you’re gone.

Have you EVER read the (How do we rate games) part at the bottom of our reviews? Probably not. We actually USE the entire scale from 1 to 10 unlike many other websites on Metacritic. Why don’t you READ what the critics had to say about it instead of looking at the little number. Even Gamespot and IGN (who normally rate almost anything above 7) give it a 4.9 and 5.2.

And you can’t take the user rating seriously now can you…

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 15:17:39

yeah, because we as gamers are all a bunch of liars, and as you say, “retards”. look dude, chill the fuck out. ign has been on a RAMPAGE of reviews trashing good games, and have been taking flack for it. their forums and comments are full of people asking what is up.

and yes, i have read the “how do we rate games” crap, and i have spent a lot of time defending some of the reviews on this site. it is not just that i disagree with you, it is just INCREDIBLY obvious this game deserves better. i believe there have only been two or three people posting here that have actually played the game, not the demo, and all of them have trashed your review and praised the game. you missed the nail on this one. but hey, hammer on, but don’t expect not to get your thumb crushed again next time, if you’re not more careful.

and you had better check with curry before you even think about dropping the ban hammer on me. i am not just any smack talking bitch (although i certainly am one, aren’t i?), i bring some intelligent conversation to the site, and if xboxic wanted me gone, i would have been booted long ago. so just chill it on out dude. and please dont delete any more posts, i didn’t say anything rude in that post, and i did take the time to concisely make a few cogent points.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 14:55:21

you pretty much summed it up when you said:

“It’s too much hard work to get any enjoyment out of this game.”

you were right, it is a lot of work. you have to learn how to play well, and then do so. it isn’t easy, but when you get it, it is SUPREMELY satisfying. this is NOT an action game. the combat moves you acquire throughout the game are NOT for use during the level play, they are to be applied for boss fights. there are so many points that you made that clearly indicate that you do not understand how to play, or even have fun with this game. as any tenchu fan knows, this is a puzzle game. it is about map knowledge and patience, something that aert was obviously lacking on his initial partial playthrough. this game is NOT for everyone, but if you were a fan of tenchu 1, you will probably really like it.

and again, no offense aert! i just don’t think you gave this game enough time to “get it”. i hated tenchu 1 the first time i played through, but after EVERYONE said how incredible and unique the gameplay was, i taught myself how to play, and it WAS NOT EASY! but once you get it, every level turns into an incredibly intricate moving puzzle, complete with a variety of over the top violent slayings.

this game has its flaws, but when played as it was intended, i will say it again, it can be SUPREMELY SATISFYING.

saucy ass-kicking ninja tartlets rule.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 15:21:35

I understand very well how this game works, you clearly didn’t. Maybe you shouldn’t use the fanboy approach with this game, open up your eyes and see how bad it is.

For regular gamers this game is worth a 3 due to all the flaws, for die-hard tenchu fans it’s probably more. The “stealth-ninja” genre is a small niche that people who like it, will probably buy everything that comes out, but that doesn’t make it good games. I could make a game about annoying commenters, which is also a very small niche. It’d sell tremendously well amongst reviewers, but the rest of the world wouldn’t like it because in essence it’s bullshit.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 15:25:52

i gotta ask, what makes you say i do not understand how this game works? is it simply because i enjoyed it, or do you have something a little more well thought out?

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 15:20:54

i did say PLEASE don’t delete any more posts didn’t i? this is the first time i have ever been EDITED on xboxic, and i have actually said some truly obnoxious shit. the points i am making here are valid. will someone please take the button AWAY from this guy?

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 15:28:05

Better watch your mouth with the personal attacks. I don’t mind criticism, but you’d better not start insulting me.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 15:34:51

if you are going to continue to write on the internet, i seriously suggest you try to figure out the difference! and i will NOT start insulting you dude! this has nothing to do with you! nice ego though. this is all about a game that i believe some people may miss an opportunity to enjoy, because of your CRAPPY review! yes i said it! i think your review was very poor, but that does not mean i think you are an asshole! see the difference? anyway, good luck with your career.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 16:01:10

:D Calling someone a liar is an insult, especially when it’s not true. And thanks, my ego is awesome.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 16:12:41

obviously.

and i just want to get this straight, for the record, you are saying that after spending five or ten hours playing tenchu z on YOUR tag, and hating it, you decided to START OVER ON ANOTHER TAG? i guess i find that very hard to believe.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 16:19:31

No.

1. I played the game for a few rounds and realized it was crap.
2. Gave it to a friend because he was bored.
3. Went over to him and played it there.
4. Recently I was bored so I started playing to get some easy achievements, but stopped because I couldn’t stand it.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 16:21:49

and calling someone a liar is ONLY an insult if it is not true. it is necessary to call people on it when they lie. people lie out of fear, and if no one ever calls them on it, it is much more difficult for them to figure out what they are afraid of.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 16:25:05

so your review is basically based on one drunken night of play at a friends house. that was not an insult, i am actually asking you if that is what you are saying. that, in itself, is not necessarily bad, but you have to see that it may have been possible for you to miss out on something under these conditions right?

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 16:38:59

No, the booze only made it bearable. I still don’t like the game and I’m still 100% behind my review, even after I played the game again a week ago.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 16:41:43

gotcha. well, you said it, i didn’t. enjoy what’s left of your credibility.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 16:48:23

I will, you enjoy yours.

Comment by mu on 2007-08-04 16:55:03

thank you.

Comment by Aert on 2007-08-04 17:15:05

You’re welcome.

Comment by Veritas on 2007-08-04 17:29:13

*Falls over laughing.*

Odd that I’m not the only who’s called him out on this review, eh? I can’t say I’m very surprised by the responses to all of this, though. “DENY DENY DENY DENY”. It reminds me of a politician.

I’ll avoid ad-hominem, though. I think the discussion above was enough to show the amount of thought that went into this review.

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