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XBOX360 Outsells PS3 by a Landslide on Black Friday

Microsoft has released their sales data from Black Friday, the busiest day of the American shopping year. Sales of the XBOX 360 rose 25% relative to post-thanksgiving shopping last year; due in no small part to the significant drops in prices since this day last year. Microsoft claims that their console outsold the rival PS3 by a ratio of 3:1.

These people are crazy for deals!

Microsoft claims the rise in sales was spurned by the recent release of hot selling exclusives like Gears of War 2, Fable II and Lips. Alongside the launch of the New Xbox Experience, which upgraded the Xbox to have quite a bit of new functionality. For American consumers, the feature of the New Xbox Experience most likely to push them into a purchase is the ability to instantly stream HD movies and TV episodes from Netflix, an online rental outlet. Currently, the Xbox 360 is the only gaming device capable of providing this functionality.

The day after the American holiday Thanksgiving, Black Friday is the day most consumers start their holiday shopping. The day gets its name from the fact that this is traditionally the first day of the year companies see the ink on their balance sheets change from red to black, deficit to profit. As the day has evolved, retailers offer steep discounts on a small number of items to spurn consumers into a frenzy to be the first to reach the items when the store opens. These crowds are often pushy, and occasionally violent, all in the name of finding a great deal on something that is most likely intentionally under stocked. The picture above shows one such scene.

Source: Information Week

Did you guys get any crazy Black Friday Deals? Does this signal the beginning of the death of the PS3’s chances in this console war? Comment away!

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122 comments on 'XBOX360 Outsells PS3 by a Landslide on Black Friday'

Comment by will on 2008-12-03 15:54:30

you just wit til metal gear, grand theft, resistance, and now killzone2 says the ps3 fan! ha ha ha ha…last place is where itll stay!

Comment by Only Gunslinger on 2008-12-03 15:58:49

This won’t make Sony stop trying in the console wars. They are very stubborn =P

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 16:13:19

When someone asks me what console to buy, my reviews are as follows:

Wii-family games and drinking games. not worth it if you plan to game alone.

PS3-the best machine on the market. the best hardware, the best system specs. It IS the best gaming system available. except for the fact htat…

360-It’s not as good as the ps3, not as many features, it dupes you into thinking it’s cheaper, when in fact it comes with a lot less (no hard drive / memory card etc). BUT, 9/10 gamers you meet on the street will own this console.

I convinced my friend to get a ps3 based on these reviews ;). There’s no denying this claim either, fanboys. This post is truth.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-03 21:31:36

“This post is truth”.

The arrogance of that post made me laugh out really quite loudly.

Comment by AN angry H0BO on 2008-12-04 20:17:30

-thats why night after night I see that max power sr. is playing gears……oh the irony.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 20:47:02

Why is it irony? I own all systems. I play all systems.

PS3 is the best system.
360 happens to have an exclusive title I’m gay for right now.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 01:08:19

It’s cheaper and comes with a lot less because -most people don’t need half of the crap that comes with the PS3-. It’s overpriced because Sony forces people to buy into a whole “experience,” and not just a game console, which is all most people want. This is one of the reasons the Wii has constant sales.

Also, it may come with a hard drive, but it’s hardly utilized to full ability. Mandatory, partial install

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-04 21:51:06

The great thing that MS did was to give the customer what he wants: choice. You can buy one with or without a hard drive depending on your choice. With PS3, you’re stuck with it whether you want it or not and they tried to force consumers to pay through the nose for their exuberant hardware development. Then surprise surprise everyone bought the 360 instead because it came out earlier, had great software support, was cheaper and gave you component based hardware which allowed you to pick and choose your own option.

It’s a no-brainer which system to buy on that basis alone. PS3 is miles behind 360 and I can’t see them recouping this loss. Sony will have to do better with its next console and marketing strategy if they want to get some kudos back again. They’ve lost so many customers and so much respect in the past 5 years it’s unbelievable.

Comment by Idiot on 2008-12-03 16:29:06

LOL Gee thanks for your “unbiased” purchase advice. I always consult anonymous internet morons when making my major electronics purchases. Whew! And to think I almost bought a 360 because I like multiplayer games, 9/10 gamers will own one, MS offers a huge library, easy developer tools, and even backward compatabilty with some of my old Xbox titles. You are so right, it’ll be much more fun sitting in a room admiring my huge, ugly, useless PS3. Oh wait, I can watch blu-ray movies on my standard definition TV weeeeeeeeeee!

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 16:51:57

First and foremost, you’re an idiot.
Second, the PS3 is far from useless. The fact that 9/10 of random strangers you meet would own a 360 should not imply that the PSN is lacking in gamers to compete against. 9/10 of the games that come out, release on both systems. The PS3 has a built in hard drive, the 360 comes ‘cheap’ w/o one, causing you to spend another 35$ on a memory card. The PS3 has BluRay. The PS3 has capability for superior quality games, in both size and graphics. The PS3 has internet. The PS3 allows me to download copies of movies I rent onto a PSP for mobile viewing.

The ONLY drawback to the PS3 is that chances are… your friends own a 360.

Comment by Will Fry on 2008-12-03 16:58:35

“The PS3 has capability for superior quality games”

Key word being Capability. ;)
It’s just a shame that the average game quality is far less. Just check metacritic.com for UNBIASED truth. :)

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 18:00:36

When I wrote that I was thinking of something along the lines of Final Fantasy 7 for the psOne. Something far into the life of a system that far exceeds anything rivals will ever hope to make.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 01:00:36

You mean a fluke?

Comment by AN angry H0BO on 2008-12-11 19:55:35

No, he means extremely gay games that feature limp wristed emo sausage jockeys as the main protaganists.

Comment by rc on 2008-12-03 17:14:28

You’re an idiot. Though ps3 does have the best specs therefore best picture and everything else, most games do not come out for both systems, most come out for 360. 360 has SUPERIOR online play and an overall online establishment. The problem lies with the BLU-ray player itself. 360 has sold more and will keeping selling more because #1 1 yr head start and #2 a video game console without an advanced DVD system such as the ps3 with a Blu ray. Had sony created a ps3 version without the Blu-ray player it would have stayed in competition for longer. Regardless modern gaming is about online play and 360 is vastly superior therefore in the long run 360 would sell more anyway even if they were around the same price and released at the same time.

Comment by Worms on 2008-12-03 16:39:10

AugustusBot your shitty opinion isn’t the truth.

Comment by Brad Williams on 2008-12-03 17:22:41

The sales figures for 360’s do not reflect the real number of 360s in use. At least a 3rd (generous)of Xbox’s will be returned. For instance, I am now on my 6th one. Bought the 5th on Black Friday and it ate a disc 3 hours later. Exchanged it on Saturday. The other 4 were Red Rings of death all within the store return period of 3 months. I only bought another because I wanted GOW2 - which turned out disapointing as no one plays the multiplayer games I was looking forward to in it. SOLID single player game though, and Horde (which you can find players for) is good. - digress. Point is, since this has turned into a comparison flame I will add unbiased information. I own all 3 consoles. PS3 IS better built, cheaper in the long run, and has more utility. The 360 is cheap built junk with some currently better online options. They have added som great ustility with the last update though - I am impressed. The Wii is solid and fun, but lacks games for the more hardcore. I purchased all systems on launch day.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 17:33:17

Ya I own all 3 too and have played my 360 every day for the past month.
I’m not sure why my opinion is deemed biased.

But rock on. Good points on the actual sales figures.

Comment by YoinkIRL on 2008-12-03 18:15:24

It’s sad that you people have absolutely no idea how retail works.

Sorry to inform you, but that IS not how it’s counted.

Comment by Kevin Engelkamp on 2008-12-03 18:23:10

Yoink’s Site is poop.com. Lol

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 18:28:35

Yoink…
It’s a guarantee that if your system died, and you bought a new one, that counts as 2 towards xbox’s stats.
I’m not sure on the returns/exchanges counting (I would think they count their sales #’s by how many Wal Mart bought in bulk, not how many Wal Mart sold to consumers?). But I’ve seen enough people comment that they’ve bought multiple xbricks to know that it’s a widespread thing.

Comment by YoinkIRL on 2008-12-03 18:33:31

Aye Augustus… when people buy multiple Xbox’s it does count toward the -sold amount.

I’m just confused why people would be buying multiple Xbox’s. If you return it to Walmart or whatever and get another one, it’s not counted. If you get a red ring and get it returned to Microsoft or whomever… it’s not counted.

Why would anyone be buying multiple boxes when you can get the existing box repaired for free or replaced? Repair’s and replacements dont count… but your right about if people are buying new boxes (though the number of dipshits doing this is relatively tiny)

Comment by Travis on 2008-12-03 17:39:39

Ha ha, ps3 sucks nuts

Comment by Idiot on 2008-12-03 18:33:17

Hey Augustus check out this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3j_fdSpkmE

Your new theme song.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 18:50:41

I think this is more appropriate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caVhBCsZqr0

Comment by YoinkIRL on 2008-12-03 18:37:05

While I agree that the PS3 is superior hardware-wise, both in quality of the components and quality of the package… the comaprison the the 360 is a joke.

The 360 completely destroys the PS3 in terms of software (features, dashboards, updates), online play, games, controller (although thats arguable as personal preference.. the other points are simply facts), userbase and support. Add on things like the Community Games and the ridiculously better DEV tools for the 360 and the comparison is simply silly to anyone who can see facts.

Comment by billy on 2008-12-03 19:36:43

yah the ps3 is so powerful YET the 360 puts out better looking games graphic wise about 95% of the time. sony took a very powerful physics cell processor and realized its not a gaming processor! look at metacritic and elsewhere the 360 games look better even when the ps3 has the so called super chip. its the same dumb ass thing they said about the emotion engine…`just wait till they figure out to program for it` hell if they ever figure it out the next system is gonna be out! face the facts…the 360 bitch slaps the ps3 in every aspect. netflix will only add to the demise of the ps3 paperweight!

Comment by StGermain on 2008-12-03 20:07:27

please don’t feed the trolls!

Comment by DoubleG on 2008-12-03 20:29:20

I’ve had my 360 for year and a half, no problems whatsoever. but I don’t use for online shit..

and the controller is definently better. fuckin shits all over ps3’s.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 20:39:19

There’s nothing wrong w/ the PS3’s controller.
It’s like saying “that apple’s red… but that banana… it’s yellow.” ok? They’re different.

They’re both great fruits. Neither has flaws.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-03 21:30:00

Incorrect. They are both gaming controllers. One is ergonomically superior to the other. The XBox 360 controller is the most natural controller I have ever used.

I would also agree that the Wii is for a lower age range as well as some family party fun, but definitely not for lone gaming.

However, when it comes to a choice for proper hard core gaming there’s only one choice and it has to be the 360. PSN is terrible. XBox Live is superb and well established. MS were spot on to focus on software rather than hardware like Sony did. XNA is a tremendously flexible framework for creating games. Any developer will tell you it’s a complete pain in the ass to develop for Sony machines.

You could almost compare it to the BetaMax/VHS war of years ago where BetaMax was actually better quality, yet failed. However, that was due to different economic reasons. In this case, the 360 is the people’s choice.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-03 21:35:58

How is PSN terrible, exactly?

The freeness of it? That’s a huge flaw.
Since the XMB update, it offers virtually everything that Live does except for the new Netflix streaming. And I bet that eventually gets there too.

Again, note, FREE.

Don’t just spit out generalizations and claim them as fact.

As for the controllers, it’s down to preference. I game with both, daily. And both are virtually identical to me. In fact I think I prefer the PS3’s due to it being slightly lighter.

Comment by wow seriously? on 2008-12-04 03:56:18

Well, besides the fact that online play sucks, horrible connections, and is all around terrible, it’s GREAT. let me tell you, that’s why everyone I know plays online with their PS3s… oh wait… nvm.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-04 21:54:18

What he said.

When it comes to an online gaming service, free IS bad, yes. I’d rather pay £30 yearly for a quality gaming service than get a steaming pile of shit for free.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 22:43:17

PC games have had free online for years and it’s been great. It’s kind of a moot point to bring that up, now.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 22:44:01

The “quality gaming service” thing is what I meant.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-06 11:34:19

PCs aren’t really intended for gaming, in particular. 360 is.

I still hold to my original point, elitist though it may be. I’d rather pay £30 for a quality gaming service where the other people who are on there are gamers only who have also paid their subscription to do just that. It’s a deterrent to kids and casual gamers. That to my mind is what makes it the #1 gaming service. If they stop charging for it, it would fall to pieces rapidly.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-06 23:28:03

Uhhh… kids are already on the service, and they’re doing their best to be annoying as fuck.

As I said, look at PC online gaming - hardly any connection trouble for most games, it’s free, and the community is just the same, if not better, than on the 360. At least when you’re playing a PC game, there’s a higher chance of playing with people that know what they’re doing because they took the time to build their computer. I love the fact that consoles “just run” games, but that also allows for lots of idiots to play, too.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-10 00:04:17

I guess the UK experience differs from the US experience then because that’s definitely not my experience of PC gaming.

But you’re right about one thing for sure: Idiots Are Everywhere.

Comment by PhilipM on 2008-12-03 20:49:01

wow - what a bunch of school yard bickering. The Xbox360 IS outselling the PS3 (in the US) - this is a given but so what. If you check out VGChartz based on data of release sales you will see that the PS3 is doing just fine for sales. One year and two years in and sales are keeping pace with each other (actually PS3 is doing better in most countries except US). Both systems have great games! Both system share most of the same games and current generation titles are identical on both systems - Ports always suck a bit compared to the original.

Comment by bigd on 2008-12-03 22:30:56

So people exchanged lots of their rrod 360s but hey lets call it a sale. 360 to PS3 returns ratio 1000:1

Comment by Kid_Outhouse on 2008-12-04 01:27:21

I wasn’t afforded the luxury of gallivanting around town shopping for things on the day after thanksgiving. It’s called having a job.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 02:36:41

Be glad for that. Idiots got trampled.

Comment by Kevin Engelkamp on 2008-12-09 14:59:56

Most people with real jobs have that day off. You must have a shit job. Explains why you’re always so sour.

Comment by TK Chillin on 2008-12-04 03:02:46

yeah I got a job too, but mine gave me 3 days off WITH pay. Didn’t you hand me my fries!!!LOL!!!

Comment by OS Perry on 2008-12-04 04:30:32

The only thing that PS3 has going for it is that you can use a bluetooth headset, and non-proprietary Hard Drive. This proprietary stuff that MS has rolled out with the 360 is Bull Sh.. Having a built in bigger hard drive, and Bluray is a plus. BluRay only matters if you own an HD TV though… Long term Sony may close the gap and surpass MS in number of consoles sold… years down the road.

But fact… Xbox LIVE will always be better than the PSN. The tools and ease with which to develop for Windows/360 will always better easier/better than PS3. The online hardcore community has been won with the Xbox 360. Sony can’t win that battle ever with the PS3. The PS3 is a solid piece of hardware… too bad their hardware is too hard to develop on, they force you into going bluray which makes the unit cost more expensive, and their online PSN is subpar to Xbox LIVE. I’ll eventually own a PS3… but only for Bluray/exclusive titles… Otherwise Xbox 360 wins hands down in cost/game library/online ablilty/install base, etc.

The RROD is a blip on my radar personally. I’ve experienced it once, and yes at the time a pain but the 3 year warranty from date of manufacture, and all the benefits I’ve mentioned that the Xbox 360 trumps the PS3, make the RROD and cheaper price of the 360 a non issue.

Wii for children/families/parties.
Xbox 360 for gamers/online/harcore
PS3 for Bluray player… and maybe its exclusive titles… none of which for me have been must own as of yet.

Comment by vxx 18 on 2008-12-04 06:41:09

Hahaha the funny thing is the site is called Xboxic! dude you really just tried to start an argument about who PS3 is better then 360 on a site called Xboxic….your dumb, and arrogant

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-04 09:03:31

Of course there going to say they outsold Sony 3 to 1, its them saying it, its not like its a third party impartial group making the claim its Microsoft saying it. I’m curious, I could understand how Microsoft would know its own numbers but how exactly would they know Sony’s to even be able to make a comparison.

I’m sure it did outsell PS3 for two reasons, one they dropped the price which due to the fact where in a recession and everybody’s broke people are obviously going to go for the cheaper system even if its inferior as its cheaper. And secondly I wonder if Microsoft would care to throw out some ratios of how many Xbox’s sold as compared to Wii’s on Black Friday, no I’m guessing there not willing to throw those numbers up for anyone to see, now are they.

Now all you Xbox fanboys can make whatever negative comments you want about what I’ve said here, but ultimately you’ll be wrong, besides you know I’ve made valid points so you’ll just have to deal with it.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 18:54:57

They know Sony’s numbers because both companies publish them for journos and stockholders all the time. It’s public information.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-05 00:48:53

Thats funny cause Sony never said they released their numbers for Black Friday.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-05 01:21:15

That’s funny, beacuase people don’t always have to announce public information.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 01:47:56

You’re not going to see them first unless you’re a shareholder, Smitty. It’s just common sense. The people that want them and use them already know how to find them.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-05 07:14:18

I find it ironic how you talk about common sense yet you constantly fail to use any.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 17:15:36

Whoops, I think you got the “who should be saying that to whom” part wrong.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-07 11:27:52

Nope, pretty sure I got it right, but I can’t blame you for trying, the truth hurts.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-04 12:05:56

Now here is the Bot I remember.

And Smitty even if the Wii did sell more that the 360, how the fuck does that even begin to help your argument except by showing that the sales for the PS3 were dead last?

Just because you say something is true doesn’t mean it is you fucking dumb little cock swallower.

If that is how facts work then I say everything you have said is false and everything I say is true and since I said it after you then I must be correct.

Fuckiong tube.

Comment by PhilipM on 2008-12-04 14:07:25

Homophobic trite - who moderates this site?

Comment by mass9 on 2008-12-04 14:19:44

its an anarchistic community.

fag.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 18:57:39

*high five*

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 14:37:28

is Tube a british term for gays? where was he homophobic? i assumed tube meant dick.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 14:38:18

oh the cock comment. i assumed he meant roosters and chickens.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-05 00:43:35

Hey Glovner how do you find the time to make posts on this site, what with you always being busy fucking your dad in the ass and all. You beastly little fag monster you.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-05 09:16:23

Because I can find a break in my day working and making money not to waste on purchasing a PS3.

Cock bracket.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 17:38:30

That’s a new one. How do you come up with those?

“cock bracket.” *ponders*

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-07 11:32:56

Really I didn’t know they had computers in the break room at Taco Bell, pretty sweet. That would explain why you couldn’t afford a PS3 to, so now I get why your so angry, your life sucks.

You completely missed with “cock bracket” by the way. If your going to insult me at least have it make sense. Maybe in-between making Burrito Supremes and mopping the bathroom try coming up with something bordering on logical. I know I ask to much.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-09 13:00:31

It ain’t my fault if like a sterotypical American you lack common sense and come across like an ignorant fuck.

By no means is that a slight on the decent Americans of the world, it’s just the ones like you give the overall wordly attitude towards Americans the negative view that there currently is.

Hell people like you embaress my Fiance and she is American, whats that say about you.

Ain’t now anger here either, but you read it however makes you feel justified.

Cock Bracket: An area to lay ones cock over.

Fag.

Comment by PhilipM on 2008-12-04 14:06:06

Can someone please tell me how Live is better than PSN? Without vague comments like it is easier to develop for - that is meaningless unless you are a developer for both systems. List the attributes that make it better, please. Here is what I know about PSN -
Free
Hardly ever down - except for scheduled maintenance
Great variety of downloadable titles - Flow, Everyday Shooter, Siren, Wipeout HD, etc.
No limit in size of game that can be made available for download
Has video downloads and loads of demos, etc.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 14:41:41

Yeah I don’t know where they’re getting their information. The claims that PSN has shittier connections is false. Every game I’ve played online has had the same expected performance as my 360/Live games.

So that I’m not biased, I will point out ONE flaw of PSN: when you update, you download a complete new install, not just a patch for the latest code. takes 15-20 minutes every time. Whereas on the 360 it takes 30 seconds for dashboard updates.

Comment by PhilipM on 2008-12-04 15:07:32

Completely agree that is a flaw but since I have a fast connection it is not too horrible.

I would love to see Live and PSN get better by stealing ideas from each other - it only makes the games better.

Comment by vxx 18 on 2008-12-04 14:42:17

Xbox Live:

Never is down…maybe 1 day a year

Better variety then Ps3, because there are more titles on the 360 then PS3 that are hits (if it wasnt for resistence lauching with the PS3 im sure half the ppl who have PS3’s wouldnt have them.. )

Has a fucking netflix, anykind of tv show, music videos seasons of everything…

Dude get the fuck off Xboxic unless you have some valid point that not only you agree with…Fag

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-04 14:51:42

“Never is down…maybe 1 day a year”

Not necessarily true, while scheduled maintenances are few and far between, there have been issues with XBL being down (though a rare occurence in of itself). Remember December last year? Especially when three guys tried suing MS for it?

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 15:01:25

I recall Live dying intermittently on a Friday night 2 weeks ago. It kept booting me from Gears, at least 3 times as I signed off and couldn’t sign back in. Finally I went to bed.

I’ve never once been booted from the PSN while playing a game on my PS3.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 19:00:14

I was fine… maybe it was just your region?

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 20:10:40

Possibly, but I know it wasn’t my internet because the 4 friends I was playing Horde with were all booted as well.

Comment by AN angry H0BO on 2008-12-11 20:06:38

-quit trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill BOT, whoever hosted the match had a $2 connection. If they lag out everyone lags out. Same in COD, same in Halo. Same on the PSN, same on XBL, same on PC. Once again your ingnorance shines through.

Comment by PhilipM on 2008-12-04 15:03:09

wow you guys really get abusive when you can’t win an argument. I was asking a very easy question - what are the differences? instead of getting angry just answer the question. I am interested in XBOX360 but want to know the differences that are so significant that people keeping going on about it
Here is what I now know:
Live does go down as often as psn
it has netflix - which does not help me as I do not want a netflix account.

A guess that is the only difference - wow that is significantly different.

oh sorry there is better variety - care to share?

Signed - Fag

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-04 16:06:43

Theyre virtually identical at this point, except Live has a larger user base. But When you’re talking millions vs. millions, I don’t think you’d ever notice the difference when trying to find a multiplayer game.

Live costs money. Live has Netflix. Live has Avatars.

PSN is free. PSN just lets you download, but I’m sure will one day support streaming. PSN will one day support Home.

(Before you chime in with ‘those aren’t implemented yet’, note that PSN is a younger online service than Live.)

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 22:39:12

8 way chat.

Being able to watch movies together in a party is another one, which is actually CONFIRMED. I can indeed say “those aren’t implemented yet,” because you have no idea whether or not streaming will come along. Home is going to be a glorified chat room/Second Life take-off for a console, so I wouldn’t even count that (or XBL avatars) as a selling point.

Xbox Live Arcade and XNA.

Also, the seamless integration of Windows PCs with the 360 and Media Center.

All things PSN doesn’t have.

PSN is basically Xbox Live lite. If you feel like paying for those features, go for it. If not, well, you’ll be happy with PSN. Although, probably not with the game selection.

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-05 01:25:34

Media Center is inferior to TVersity. PS3 supports TVersity.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 01:49:17

It can’t be that much better if I’ve never heard of it. =P Considering I’m a pretty big tech junkie.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 01:50:56

Well, apparently Xbox 360 supports it, too.

http://tversity.com/screenshots/

And the Wii, too.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-05 02:18:52

“PSN is basically Xbox Live lite”

Maybe Lite Plus or something, since you can still play MP. :P

Comment by AugustusBot on 2008-12-05 14:41:23

Ya 360 supports it. But just saying, ps3 has seamless integration too.

I remember when I first set up media center, some format wasn’t working, but TVersity supported it. Apparently it has more codec support than Media Center.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 17:20:03

Well, I wouldn’t be surprised, Microsoft is bad about codec support crap.

My computer came with a TV tuner when I bought it, but they didn’t give me the codec I needed to actually watch TV. WTF?

Anyway, as for the seamless integration thing, TVersity isn’t out of the box. People won’t know about it without word-of-mouth (example: me :P). The Media Center feature is more heavily advertised since it’s first party software, and so is more likely to be used. It’s like when Mac users say “oh, but Macs CAN play games… with Parallels, on Windows.” If it’s not native, it can’t really be considered a selling point, as only the tech-savvy will find out about those things.

Comment by vxx 18 on 2008-12-04 14:56:38

O ic your talkin about that time that EVERYONE WENT OUT A BOUGHT A 360, and when they all signed on Live, it overloaded and it was laggy for like 2 weeks… I guess I’ll just suck it up cause in the long run I’ll have to wait 1 min to get a game, as opposed to your 5 minutes to get a game because the lack of PS3’s out there…Once again pull your head out of your ass and surface bro

Comment by eStrongBadx on 2008-12-04 16:22:58

Unfreakin’ believable. You guys need to stop whipping out the measuring sticks for penis size. Both consoles are awesome in their own ways. I had all three consoles (Sold my Wii as it was not played that often and I got more $ than I paid for it). The PS3 is finally coming around with games and it’s online service is free. Isn’t that awesome!! The Xbox 360 is an easy platform to develop for, good games, Netflix, and Xbox Live. Wow that’s awesome too! Xbox Live goes down occasionally and costs me $50/year and some PS3 online games don’t work at first and make you pay for Blu-Ray - both have problems. Oh no, strengths and weaknesses for each. Get over it everyone!! Stop trying to justify YOUR purchase to everyone else. Enjoy Gaming, plain and simple.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-04 16:31:32

Yeah well it’s fun flaming ignorant trolls when they come on an XBOXic website.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-04 19:02:41

I’m personally glad that PSN is free, because if I ever get a PS3 (soon, hopefully), I’ll only have to pay for one service. Paying for two would just plain suck, but not having Live would also suck.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-05 07:18:41

I have to say I’m a bit surprised to hear you say you want to hopefully get a PS3 soon. Maybe your not the Antichrist after all.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 17:21:30

I’m a sucker for MGS, and Valkyria Chronicles looks amazing.

I don’t have anything against the console, just the company. :P

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-07 11:34:58

Wow, did we just become best friends?

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-07 17:21:26

That’s funny, you don’t have ANY friends.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-09 10:37:37

You know what else is funny, I wasn’t fucking talking to you.

You know what’s funnier then that, the fact that your not even remotely close to being funny.

Nice try though. I guess comedy just inst your thing, guess you’ll just have to keep your day job as a human toilet.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-09 12:52:36

Of course it isn’t funny to you, because we’re all laughing AT you. But it’s okay, you’re not required to laugh, or even ‘get’ the joke.

But hey, if it makes you feel better, go on pretending you have friends. I salute you for your optimism.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-09 17:14:49

I know its only a forum but there is such a thing as being to harsh, you hurt my feelings.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-09 19:41:59

Fag.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-09 22:45:58

Well I still didn’t do a good enough job if you keep coming back for more abuse. Or maybe you’re into that.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-10 11:39:15

I am a fag, i love touching myself when men are in the room.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-11 16:11:05

I do believe that somewhere in another thread you make the point that it is childish to post under someone elses name.

Hypocritical fag.

Comment by DoubleG on 2008-12-04 20:49:30

PS3 is like soooo waaay more better. you all no nothing about video games. geez

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-05 01:29:17

Oh yeah, man, you all just don’t know, I mean PS3 is just so awesome like if you had any idea, your brain would explode. Yeah man. Geez.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-09 10:39:14

I used to know a guy who talked like this. Everyone called him the “asshole”.

Comment by H34RT 4TT4CK on 2008-12-09 12:50:32

I used to know a guy who talked like you, he sat alone at the lunch table.

Comment by Joe on 2008-12-05 02:40:37

I don’t see why people are arguing that the ps3 is better, on a post that is about the xbox overselling it, you’re obviously wrong about the ps3’s “greater features” otherwise more people would be buying it, can’t argue with facts.

Comment by vxx 18 on 2008-12-05 07:26:02

Well Said Joe… End of Discussion

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-05 07:35:53

Actually we can argue, its our right, at least until Obama takes it away. PS3 is better then Xbox, and yes live is better the PSN, but I believe that has to do with the fact that Microsoft has had a huge head start over Sony as they have been in the online game sense long before the first Xbox came out. Given some time Sony’s online experience will improve as we have seen it improve substantially already over its early iterations.

What I defend against is people saying its a crap system, or a system with no games, which makes no sense considering almost all of the games that come out now come out on both systems, with exception of the exclusives. But the fact that Xbox has outsold PS3 has much less to do with Xbox being superior, and more to do with the fact that Microsoft beat Sony to market, and because the PS3 is a higher priced machine, and rightly so, it offers quite a bit more.

People like to shit on the fact that its a BluRay player, and we hear the continuous crap talk about all it does it play BluRay movies. Well we all know that’s far from true, beside if you really expect us to feel bad about the fact that our system plays the format that won the HiDef war, guess what, we don’t. That’s hardly a negative, and it has helped to sell more PS3’s, so thanks for pointing out that its a BluRay player but we already knew, its one of the reasons we bought it, and we smile every time we walk into a store and buy a new movie on BluRay.

Comment by Veritas on 2008-12-05 17:37:38

I’m pretty blown away.

You’re right, it’s not a crap system (at least in my opinion). Whether or not the 360 is superior, though, doesn’t matter, because Microsoft’s marketing is. The head start was obviously a big help, but it’s not like it was accidental… it was a planned move that M$ knew would pay off (RROD regardless). The user-base is growing through word of mouth, either by correct or incorrect “facts,” and smart appeals to varying demographics.

What it comes down to is majority rule, I suppose. Just because people buy it more, does that make it better (rhetorical question)? It’s like the Israel-Palestine conflict - whether or not the land was really Israel’s to begin with doesn’t matter, because they took it anyway. It’s theirs, regardless of whether it should be or not.

Either way, as I said, I would prefer to have both. They really do both have good points. I just need for Sony to lower the price and remove some of those features that are useless to me before I will get one. :P

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-07 11:38:11

Amen brother. Lets hope for a price drop soon.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-05 21:11:49

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Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-05 21:12:12

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Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-05 21:12:39

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Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-07 11:40:00

Yes Glovner we know, and where all totally ok with your sexual preference.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-08 09:09:36

Well done, you just swapped the words about to make a come back with the age old favourite of sapstics and three year olds.

“I know you are, but what am I?”

No point entering witty debates with you anyway, since you just spout shit and aren’t even remotely funny. As proved by the above retort.

So from now on.

Smitty, fag.

Comment by Smitty on 2008-12-09 10:50:32

Spoken like a true bitch. A bitch that realizes he cant compete, not that I’m surprised by that at all.

I know, I’ll just through out the ubiquitous “no point in debating with you sense I’m so much better bla bla bla”. Here, all save you the trouble and say it for you. You are incapable of debating with me, in fact I’m so fucking far ahead of you, you need the Hubble Telescope to see me. Speaking of not being remotely funny, you want to see a un-humoristic dull human being, take a good long look in the mirror. One day though when your all growed up maybe you’ll amount to something slightly higher then that white crusty shit that accumulates on the corners of your mouth in the morning.

So from now on

Glovner, bitch. But then again you’ve always been a bitch.

Comment by The_Glovner on 2008-12-09 11:02:01

Ahem…..

Fag.

Comment by Takumi on 2008-12-09 17:25:43

WOW that was the gayest comeback youve ever made, im actually surprised with how much of a pure faggot you can be. i thought you were OK, but i guess your just a lame ass twelve year old knob head.

Comment by StGermain on 2008-12-05 09:21:13

Let’s rename this site to Flameboxic.com ???? Where is the news? Where are all those new people writing articles? This used to be such a great site where you could see on monday what was going to be on XBLA on wednesday and then another article when it came out and we would actually know about what demo’s came out and RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH…. ok, I’m going to take my pills now!

Comment by Kevin Engelkamp on 2008-12-09 15:02:33

I’m on it!

Comment by zarbor on 2008-12-09 22:14:39

I have both systems and people defending the PS3 as a superior system are just dopey. There is not one game on the PS3 that cannot be done on the 360. Thats the problem you clowns.

Blu-ray, internet, etc. etc. and the games are no way better than the 360. So what did I pay for? A system that can do a bunch of other crap that play the same games as the 360.

I have no hope left that the PS3 will deliver a much greater gaming experience than the 360. None!! Sony has won the format battle but lost the videogame war. That’s a fact not opinion. More games and more systems sold on the 360.

Wake up fanboys. Like it or not.

Comment by ManoDestra on 2008-12-10 00:08:37

Seconded. And that’s the opinion of everyone I know who’s had experience of all the current next-gen consoles.

Except Smitty, of course, who seems to be caught in a permanent time warp or something. Or maybe he’s years ahead of his time. Maybe in 30 years time, the PS3 will rate better than the 360. Who knows? He may have the last laugh after all.

Not.

Comment by DoubleG on 2008-12-10 01:33:00

‘Sony won the format battle but lost the video game war’..

‘I just sent wave after wave of my own men at them’..

capt. Brannigan, futurama.

Comment by Katan13 on 2008-12-10 13:00:05

Plus sony is looking a bit shakey due to the economic crisis going on, check this bbc site out
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7772597.stm

By the looks of it they are scaling down there production and staff, and i bet they cut back on things they sell and don’t make much of a profit on i.e. the ps3. They only broke even this year i think, but i’m not 100% sure.

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